Of Conspiracy Theories

I'm sorry to have to go all English teacher on you, but boy did there seem to be a number of typos or misused words in today's blog. As for the conspiracy theories, I'm never surprised by the nonsense that some people can choose to believe.

mike, you failed to mention one of my favorite conspiracy theories: that men never really landed on the moon in 1969. i know you did not intentionally, leave it out. many folks seldom think of that one.

You are right doodle bug I completely missed that one. I don't know how I missed it, it's one of favorite conspiracy theories. Thanks for bringing it up. I've got class in a bit, but later I will add that one in. Good catch.

SWNebr, reading back over my blog, yes I did have quite a bit of typos. I will correct those later today when I add in the conspiracy of the moon landing. Thanks for pointing it out. I hate typos, especially when they are mine.

Mike, as long as you are on the subject, I have always wondered how Oswald was able to shoot a Right Hand Bolt action rifle from a window that would not allow anyone to shoot at that angle without hanging out the window. Even a Lefty, would almost have to hang out the window to shoot that angle, and manipulating a right hand rifle, left handed really slows one down, and destroys any chance of accuracy. Just a thought.

Arley

Navyblue, that goes back to what I said in my blog, that by military standards he was, at best, an average marksman, yet he pulled off three shots at a moving target, around a tree, with an opposite handed rifle. I've never doubted that he got one good shot off, but not three.

As a "younker," there were three of us who ran together. Once we had the money for ammunition, a favorite pasttime was to go by one of the many informal trash dumps in gullies around the farms and ranches. There we would collect every intact bottle and jug we could find.

We set up three identical dime-sized targets and with .22 rifles shot for turns.

First shot had to hit the main bottle, second shot got the bottle bottom,

Third shot had to hit the neck.

When Third shot scored, he moved to first, and the rotation began again, with rotations seldom taking more than five bottles.

In the army, I dropped about three points out to the 300 yard line, when realization hit that high scores were enroute to Korea with a BAR. Amazing, couldn't hit a thing from 300 out to 500 yards.

What I'm saying -- is that being totally familiar with rifles and being better than good, there is no way in my youth, I or any marksman I've ever known could have pulled off those shots, with the best of 1963's available weapons and scopes, from the Schoolbook Depository window, as credited to Oswald, using a deficient weapon.

As for the famous Lewinsky conspiracy theories, did anyone watch the early NBC group interview with Monica's old Beverly High School buddies?

At the final question, "Were any of the guys here not involved with Monica at least once? Just raise your hand." Not one hand went up.

Another group interview with her college buddies up in the Northwest, where they all remembered Monica bragging about the White House internship her MD Specialist party donor daddy had arranged.

"I'm going to Washington to earn my presidential kneepads."

Her goal was set. No one pursued her. She was the predator. Not surprisingly, the male animal won over common sense.

The real tragedy, WE PAID for a $25-Million effort to unseat Bill Clinton. The special prosecutor had a single charge, but wandered all over the landscape looking for anything to charge both Clinton's with.

ACTUAL RESULT -- The Clinton's were embarrassed and their memoirs became huge financial windfalls.

As for the complaints about President Obama and Osama bin Laden, The BUSH FAMILY are the old friends of the Osama clan. Military operations to eliminate Osama, Al Quaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan were curtailed sharply to divert resources to the clearly needless Iraq invasion.

Before you start outlining Sadaam's atrocities, let's consider the multiple Bush administrations' disregard for Idi Amin, Pol Pot, the Sudan and other genocides -- wherein millions of women and children, professional people, academics, even medical doctors have been slaughtered.

Sadaam was a complete pschopath, and his sons were worse, but Al Quaeda" in Afghanistan presented a clear and present danger to the U.S. and still does [Check Sept. 28th's report of the undectable alimentary canal suicide bomb].

Failing to pursue Osama in 2002 was a major mistake. We now face a revived Taliban and Osama firmly entrenched in the bandit regions of Pakistan, with a nuclear arsenal for the taking from a corrupt government.

I'm looking for evidence of the Democrats' conspiracy to make Tom Delay appear the complete "male menopause" idiot on a reality DANCE show.

Whoever is responsible, that was a HUGE SUCCESS!!

The conspiracy theory has on Obama's birth has been through court so many times, one judge has already declared that if the woman bringing the charges again he will hold her in contempt. Obama has released his birth certificate. If you choose not to accept it that is really your problem.

Sceptre, who are these "some" you are referring to?

I also have to say I'm not really comfortable with you saying that a sitting president is an enemy of the United States. That's walking a very fine line.

I don't mind bringing up other conspiracy theories, but guys let's at least keep it civil. No name calling or degradation. This goes for both sides.

"Not surprisingly, the male animal won over common sense"

It would appear that with Clinton, this was a common theme throughout his presidency (and his stint as governor). Monica was but one of many...but go ahead and continue to blame Ms Lewinsky to justify your conspiracy theory.

...biting...tongue...for...sake...of....civility...

So the fact that this has been settled many times over, and thrown out of court several times before apparently means nothing.

Great day when you figure out the only way to get anything to stick is to do it over and over and over again.

It reminds me of people trying to beat a polygraph test. If they repeat the lie to themselves enough times they will believe it.

Seriously, how much is this going to cost us? Why are people so bent out of shape about taxes but pointless and frivolous charges against a sitting president where the cost comes out of everyone's pocket is just fine. I don't get it.

You do realize Sceptre that this is the same woman, Orley Taitz, who was been thrown out of courtrooms for not knowing simply court procedures. This is the same person, that just two weeks ago a judge threatened her with content charges after repeatedly filing the same case in that courtroom after it had been thrown out. All she has done is moved it to a new jurisdiction. This case will be thrown out as well. That is my prediction.

The trial date has not been set by the way. That day listed, is the earliest date that the judge would be available to hear the case, but they have many many steps to go before actually getting a hearing and as I predicted it won't go to trial, because Dr. Taitz has no proof whatsoever. The burden is on her to prove that Obama is not eligible to be president and she can't. That is why every single one of her cases has been thrown out.

Husker you called Clinton's time as governor a stint. He was governor on two seperate occasions. The first time he served was from 1978-1980. His second term was from 1982 until 1992 when he left that job to be President of the United States. 12 years as governor is a tad bit longer than a stint.

Sceptre show me one bill that has passed and signed taking away gun rights under Obama.

Sceptre I will also ask that you stay on topic, health care is mentioned nowhere in this blog.

Mike,

I stand corrected, thank you.

My response should have been: "During Clinton's 12 years as Governor, his male animal won out over common sense many times."

Thanks again for the clarification...that really helps.

(By the way, how much exactly is "a tad bit longer" compared to a stint? - just for future reference)

Sceptre mentioned it KarlMarx. That is his conspiracy theory, nine threads up.

I do realize that all you are doing is trying to attack my character and call out my lies and hypocrisy, but you might want to read other posters before your criticize.

As far as Lee Oswald is concerned you need to study the facts and not rely on Oliver Stone who admits his movie is a movie.

Oswald was not average. He scored near perfect on his long range marine target scores.

The first shot that missed is widely believed to have hit the branch of a tree or traffic signal.

Lastly, the time between shots were much longer than Stone depicted in the movie.

I am not saying he acted alone or with help. I am just saying the facts are not what the movie "JFK" represented.

I meant this blog as a non political look at conspiracy theories and it has turned into a all out war on personal politicts. I will ask you guys to please stay away from personal attacks and character assassination.

Sceptre, I don't know of anyone who has ever claimed the liberalism isn't Marxism. The far end of the liberal spectrum of politics is indeed Marxism.

The argument is linking liberalism to fascism. They are two completely different ideologies on the opposite ends of the political spectrum.

Everything you have described here is fascism not liberalism. True liberalism neither adheres or believes in the scenarios you set up. Mussolini WAS a fascist, that is not in question.

Stalin was a communist not a socialist. Communism and socialism are two different animals. Stalin was the worst of tyrants who set up his own government with his own beliefs.

Torture has only been redefined by one side and that's the right. Torture is torture no matter how you try to slice it. If you are bringing pain to a prisoner in order to get information that is torture.

I for one have never stated that liberal way is the one and only way for a government and a nation to succeed. I have always argued that the best way for this country to move forward is to sample (as it does, and always have) from the best of ideologies.

To date, how many of our own people have we charged with torture? The answer is zero.

To end, the Soviet Union was not a socialist system but a perverted form of socialism (called communism). The Soviet Union did not practice a true form of socialism, and to be honest no country exists that does.

Mike,

Trying to maintain civil discussion with this crowd is akin to conducting an English Tea in a rodeo town "parlor house."

If you review the bidding in this "Old Conspiracy Theories" segment, there are more than a few vitriolic, slanderous writings.

As for the Santa Ana judge who allowed that "qualified for president" lawsuit to continue after the same identical filing has been bounced repeatedly from several other courts.

Santa Ana's in uber-conservative Orange County, CA.

That judge has what any fair minded person would accept as extreme, right wing reactionary conservative views.

No surprise he was not appointed to the bench by Clinton or Carter. Guess who that leaves as the president who appointed him.

Relax folks, this case is only going to cost the taxpayers a couple of million at most, far below the $25-Million Ken Starr wasted chasing the Clintons all over the legal landscape.

By the way -- you political genuises who love to bash Bill Clinton.

When he took office, he found about 50% of all highway budgets in Arkansas were being diverted to political graft of one form or another.

He ended that nonsense.

Clinton was attempting to move too fast, even for liberal Arkansawers. They turned him out after two years. He drove the state, whittling with the good ol' boys in front of stores, gas stations, post offices and court houses and asking what he had done wrong. "Slow down and chew slowly."

Arkansas schools were pathetic at the best, when Clinton went into office and returned two years later.

Virtually every Republican office holder with children had them enrolled in private schools.

High school science classes were taught using household cleaning products.

After eight years of Clinton, even small rural high schools had fully equipped and staffed science departments -- and qualified teachers.

Clinton convinced major businessmen -- Sam Walton, Don Tyson, J.B. Hunt and others to provide seed money for an industrial development program.

Any industry wanting to locate in Arkansas would provide their equipment for training programs and state provided vocational teachers would train four times as many workers for that employer's start up as were needed.

That way, those who were hired could not coerce the boss with their exclusivity of skills, and the remainder of the people represented a trained labor force for any like company.

Having trained labor was a bigger draw than free land and buildings, tax breaks, etc.

After the companies which benefited from this program were up and running, they repaid the revolving fund all costs for training provided for their operations.

As more plants arrived, most if these established companies voluntarily added to the revolving fund.

When International Paper announced that due to federal EPA requirements, they were being forced to close their Arkansas and Northern Louisana operations and move overseas.

Clinton drove to their pulpwood country offices, secured a meeting with Int'l. Paper's executive committee and simply asked what it would take to keep their $300-Million annual operation in Arkansas.

He was told, the company would have to move rather than be hit with the environmental programs being demanded.

Clinton asked for one week, returned to Little Rock, called an emergency session of the legislature and presented the problem, with a suggested solution.

Under his leadership, Arkansas legislators accepted tax cuts for International Paper, adequate to cover the environmental costs required by EPA.

Under Clinton's years, Arkansas freeways, highways and side roads improved steadily.

After he left, they went right back to awful.

[I left Memphis with almost new shocks, had to have those replaced at Texarkana. Fortunately, I had bought the warranty.]

Arkansas is a small state. Every well financed "trophy wife," social debutante type and country club vamp in the state knew Hillary Clinton was devoted to her law practice and the young governor was sleeping alone in the governor's mansion at least 75% of the time.

The pursuit by these females when he attended meetings around the state was relentless.

More than once, the husbands were seen supporting the Elks Club bar rather than attend the meeting and witness their wive's antics.

This is why most knowledgable Arkansas "veterans" thought it comedic that Clinton would pursue a Paula Jones. He did not need to chase, all he had to do was quit running away from the most attractive women in the state.

You've seen the "before plastic surgery" photos of Paula Jones. Could you have gotten past that nose in pursuit of that plain and scrawny frame?

With dozens of the most physically attractive, university educated women in pursuit of him around the state -- the concept of Clinton pursuing Paula Jones is laughable.

Jennifer Flowers, yeah, Paula Jones -- yeech!

In all probability he stopped running away from some of the women.

Ike had WREN driver Kay Summersbee as a full-time English bed warmer while he was married to Mamie.

John McCain was sharing a blonde heiress'deluxe condo in Hawaii, when his first wife (mother of his children) entered a Phoenix cancer ward. McCain visited her in that ward long enough to present the divorce papers.

The Kennedy's conduct with multiple women has been thoroughly reported.

While Rose was raising kids at Hyannis, Old Joe was frolicking with Gloria Swanson in Hollywierd.

Stonewall Jackson was late for a battle, because he paused for a pleasant weekend with the young wife of one of his older subordinate officers in the Shenadoah Valley.

Jeb Stuart disappeared for a week before the Battle of Gettysburg, leaving Lee "blind as a bat" as for knowledge of Union forces. Seems Jeb had found a pleasant diversion back down the road.

Aggressive, affluent, influential and powerful men AND WOMEN are prone to carry that aggression into personal relations with attractive members of the opposite sex.

Check the magazine covers and web sites for endless "Cougar Stories" -- Starting with Demi Moore.

Strom Thurmand acknowledged a decades-long bi-racial affair which resulted in children.

We had a "super-religious" bachelor great uncle working for the railroad, operating ditch cleaning equipment and managing the entire work train for decades, across six states.

When he died, there was considerable commotion when a wife with three kids showed up at the funeral from two states away.

Then another wife and two kids appeared, at the far end of an adjacent state.

Before that shockwave had died, another wife and four kids arrived, from the state the other direction.

As I recall, both of his sisters fainted, two brothers left the church immediately, showing up for graveside rites, drunk on their rears.

The wifes and kids ended up going out to dinner together to get acquainted.

I knew a really prominent man in our community, Chairman of this, President of that, with considerable hidden wealth -- who had affairs with dozens of women, including some of his best friends' wives.

If we impeached or fired every business executive who is less than monagomous, or impeached every public official with the same problem -- we would have a lot of vacant management seats.

Where I have problems is when a Senator Ensign and Governor Mark Sanford go into full attack mode after Bill Clinton -- and then turn out to be engaged in far more deliterious conduct, along with Public Restroom Specialist Larry Craig and so many others.

I think that is referred to as hypocrisy.