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Voting for the troops

Tuesday, July 28, 2009

Wasting taxpayer money is always a bad idea and wasting it for the wrong reason is even worse. Soldiers often face the "fog of war" on the battlefield. My simple gut check helps me see through the "fog of Washington."

A Vote Against Wasteful Spending and for Our Troops

Last week, we had "fog of Washington" moments as we worked to pass a major defense bill but I didn't lose sight of why we were there: the troops. I joined a solid majority rejecting two wasteful programs the Pentagon doesn't want and would have been funded by taking money away from our troops.

The bill known, as the National Defense Authorization Act of 2010, ensures the continued operation of our Armed Forces, and it helps improve the lives of our military and their families.

First, I voted with 57 other senators on an amendment against paying for more F-22 fighter jets. The Pentagon says we have enough and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates has made ending their production key goal of his Defense Department reforms. Some senators fought for more jets, which are produced in their states. They proposed paying for them by cutting spending elsewhere -- partly by taking $400 million from military personnel.

Second, I voted with 58 other senators against an amendment funding an alternate engine for the military's new F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. Senators supporting the program--again from states where they alternate engine is under development--argued it would push competition. That makes sense sometimes...but not in this case.

They suggested paying for the alternate engine by taking money from Marine Corps' helicopters to be used in Afghanistan. They also proposed taking money from Air Force special operations C-130 aircraft used to transport military personnel and materials to Iraq, Afghanistan and around the world.

The Pentagon Tried to Stop the Spending

The previous administration and military leaders tried to end the alternate engine program because the Pentagon said the F-35's first engine has been doing the job. The President's 2007, 2008 and 2009 budgets didn't seek funding. But it was kept alive each year thanks to congressionally directed funding, also known as earmarks.

Defense Secretary Gates, a holdover from the previous administration, recently warned of a possible presidential veto this time around if Congressional add-ons brought back to life programs ended by the Pentagon, including the alternate engine and the F-22.

Building seven additional F-22's would cost about $1.7 billion. The alternate engine would cost about $5 billion over the next half dozen years, big business for states home to companies working on the second engine.

Wasting Taxpayer Money Would Cut Troops Support

In both cases, it didn't make sense to chop up the defense budget to make room for Congressional add-ons that the military leaders adamantly opposed as unnecessary. That would have shortchanged what our men and women in uniform need today to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I'm certain the "fog of Washington" will always exist. But I will never see a reason to waste taxpayer money on unwanted military hardware, and particularly not when it undermines our troops. I'll always see that clearly.

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  • How does the philosophy of "wasting taxpayer money" fit into fulfilling a Senator's ego and renaming an airport after him. Where was the Senator when he knew his former community would have to foot the bill to glorify his name? He knew it was being done, knew it would cost the city's taxpayers money with no benefit to the city itself. That's a great example of a waste of taxpayer money but I guess it's ok if it's a waste of money he supports such as renaming a building in his honor.

    It was the Air Force that made the initial request for the F22s. They wanted them alright but eventually cut them with the realization that they needed to make cuts somewhere to get their budget through. Senators from states that produce this aircraft, understandably, tried to save the jobs that would be lost. Congratulations, Ben. You've managed to kill even more jobs during your term. I suppose you can add it to the 2 million plus jobs you've lost since your Stimulus Bill. To say this was "unwanted military hardware", actually contributes to the "fog of Washington" and brings it right back here to McCook, right in our face.

    Seeing through your misrepresentations and deception is becoming clearer by the day. I'm seeing that quite clearly.

    -- Posted by McCook1 on Tue, Jul 28, 2009, at 9:38 AM
  • Keep up the good work, Senator Nelson.

    The city "fathers" decided to name the airport after him, he never asked for it.

    Were not the signs etc. in need of replacement, repainting, maintance whatever, so the cost is nominal. No more than new signs were going to cost anyway.

    The contractor that builds the F22 is the same one building the F35, so many of the people on the 22 line an/will be switched to the 35 line.

    I agree not taking 400 million from military personnel funds to pay for a fighter that is not needed. The "grunt" is always the guy that gets screwed by the powers to be, about time someone is looking out for the little guy in the military.

    Ok so they take money from "program 100" to pay for the additional f22s.What is going to happen to the people that are producing the product that would be funded with the money for "program 100"? If that program ("100") is cut there would be jobs lost there to save the jobs for the f22. So don't pi$$ and moan about the jobs lost on the f22 line.

    Give me a break, finally they stop some of this crap spending,and people start crying foul, the same ones complaining about the money spent on the stimulus bill, is that called wanting your cake and eating it too?

    -- Posted by goarmy67 on Tue, Jul 28, 2009, at 10:02 PM
  • "The city "fathers" decided to name the airport after him, he never asked for it."

    He was in contact with the group that pushed the issue locally and he was supportive of it and voiced no objections about it.

    "Were not the signs etc. in need of replacement, repainting, maintance whatever, so the cost is nominal. No more than new signs were going to cost anyway."

    The signs were just replaced a few years ago when they renamed the airport the first time. They didn't need to be replaced. The signs had a lot of years left on them and replacing them now would be a waste of taxpayer money just to humor a Senator's ego. If he was concerned about wasting taxpayer money then he would be concerned regardless of the cost of the waste. Especially, when there is absolutely zero benefit to the taxpayers whatsoever.

    "The contractor that builds the F22 is the same one building the F35, so many of the people on the 22 line an/will be switched to the 35 line."

    Once again, you're wrong. There is no proposal to increase F35 production above what was already in the proposed budget so those jobs for the F35 are already spoken for, regardless. The additional jobs that WILL be lost are those that the company needed for the F22 production. The company already has enough employees for the F35 but they won't need the employees they had planned on for the F22.

    There are thousands of line items in the budget from which you can find the funds needed and you can increase efficiency in the various departments to save money as well. This of course, requires a lot of hard work and in Washington that is obviously not an option. It can be done but it doesn't make for great headlines, talking points or press releases to the local papers because the cuts would be insignificantly minor and therefore uninteresting.

    Of course, they could also just borrow the money but that is reserved for programs that don't work i.e. the Stimulus Bill. Only Congress and Ben would approve a 2 year tax break that takes them 10 years to pay off.

    Btw, I'm not the one moaning about the jobs being lost by cancelling the F22. That will be done by the people who actually do lose their jobs. I'd like to see the conversation where someone tries convincing them they didn't lose their job because of this decision.

    I'm sure he has the best of intentions but he doesn't have the best of policies. Every time he tries to do something to save jobs he ends up losing them instead, in spades. It's like watching Dorf Goes Legislating and it's Ben Nelson playing the part of Dorf.

    -- Posted by McCook1 on Wed, Jul 29, 2009, at 12:07 PM
  • McCookie1 looks like you should run for the senate, you seem to know all, and seems like you are an expert on everything. Your extreme talents are surely being wasted in whatever you are doing now. Let's see your name up for nomination for at least the 3rd district congressional district, since that idiot that is there now does not have a clue.

    I do not remember reading any of the so called facts you write about the airport deal,and what Senator Nelson knew or did not know, but there again you seem to know all. Insider information no doubt.

    Funny that many websites and articles on the web concerning the f22 and f35 stated that workers could be switched over to work on the other plane, but there again you are the expert, so I guess you are right...........perhaps you are a lobbyist for a defense contractor?

    BTW, you do seem to be complaining about saving money, don't know what else you can call it.

    It is very commendable that you are so concerned about the people that you seem to think will be losing their jobs, as of yet I have not seen any articles that have stated there have been job cuts, but I can tell you I do not spend hour after hour on the computer, so perhaps there have been, but again I will leave the facts up to you.....you are the expert.

    As far as saving money line item by line item, you definitely need to go to D.C., perhaps you can change something that whoever has been the president at the time, has been trying to accomplish for years, the line item veto. Perhaps with your expert advice you can change the culture in D.C., heaven knows it needs to be done!

    Yes there are millions-billions being wasted, do really expect one senator to change it? Last time I looked Senator Nelson did not have a big red S on his chest or a blue cape.

    Since you seem to dislike the job that Senator Nelson is doing, perhaps you should read the article on the opinion page of tonight's Gazette, by Ed Howard, seems like he is doing something right even on the dreaded health care bill, of course there again you are the expert, even though you just might be just a little "foggy".

    -- Posted by goarmy67 on Wed, Jul 29, 2009, at 8:38 PM
  • "I do not remember reading any of the so called facts you write about the airport deal,and what Senator Nelson knew or did not know"

    Allow me to refresh your memory with the link below. The group pushing this informed him of it and if he had any objections to it then councilmembers wouldn't have to ask if he was informed of the proposal.

    http://www.mccookgazette.com/story/1547750.html

    There were articles written about McCook renaming the airport from McCook Municipal Airport to McCook Regional Airport a few years ago which required new signs and marketing materials due to the name change that was done only a few years ago and now it's changing again after the city just got done renaming it. You don't have to be an insider, you just need to be informed.

    "Funny that many websites and articles on the web concerning the f22 and f35 stated that workers could be switched over to work on the other plane"

    Yeah, I've seen that too and if it were true then the Senators from those states wouldn't be worried about it. Oh yeah, a lot of the people saying no jobs will be lost due to the F22 program's cancellation are also Senators who are pushing for the F22's cancellation. Hmmm, must be more of that fog.

    "BTW, you do seem to be complaining about saving money, don't know what else you can call it."

    Let's cut money from Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security that will save a lot of money too. Killing more good paying jobs doesn't help anybody. We could have saved $787 Billion on a program that has made our economy worse than anyone thought and now you want to save $1.7 Billion by cutting planes designed to maintain our air superiority above all other aircraft? Hmmm, spend $1.7 Billion to enhance national security to a higher level or $787 Billion to kill 2 million more jobs? It's not a tough decision why I support one and not the other. The F22 program actually has merit and doesn't kill jobs.

    "perhaps you can change something that whoever has been the president at the time, has been trying to accomplish for years, the line item veto."

    We had the line item veto under Clinton and the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional due to the fact that it violates the whole purpose of the separation of powers. Besides that has nothing to do with Congress going line by line in the budget. Congress can go line by line and make any cuts they want anyway. The President can approve it or veto it, in which case Congress could go to a 2/3 override vote and still pass the bill.

    "Yes there are millions-billions being wasted, do really expect one senator to change it?"

    No, but I certainly don't expect him to contribute to it either. Not only did he contribute to a wasteful $787 dollar plan but he led the charge to get it passed despite not having any way to pay for it and now he's worried about $1.7 Billion for national security. I read the bill that's why I know that they plan to pay for the 2 year tax break over a period of 10 years but it doesn't say how they will pay for it. It's the Democratic way to "Pass bills first, pass taxes later" and he's jumped right onto that bandwagon.

    I'm just an average person with an average income but I do keep myself informed of what is going on. The last time I didn't keep myself fully informed, I voted for dear old Ben. I'm sure regretting that now.

    Politics still takes money that I don't have but if I did, I would be up for a Senate run in 3 years to remove our Nebraskan Fog Machine from office. Unfortunately, you have to have a lot of money or a lot of shady connections to get started in politics. Both of which are characteristics that I lack.

    -- Posted by McCook1 on Thu, Jul 30, 2009, at 11:06 AM
  • MCCookie1 the idea was formed in McCook, yes they asked him, but your comments seem to make him out to be the bad guy on this, he never asked them to do this for him, some McCook people decided they wanted to honor him, get over it, it's done.

    A very good column in Sunday World Herald by Joe Conason, hits people like you square on the head.

    He describes the so called "Fiscal Conservatives"

    (Mostly towards the politicians, including the Blue Dog democrates).

    How they "bemoan" spending money on the so called social programs, but when it comes to military spending it's a completely different story, especially when it throws money at their districts.

    "Remember that posturing over spending has very little to do with saving public money or serving the nation's greatest needs. When politicians say they're fiscally conservative, they're often anything but."

    Pretty much describes most of the so called conservatives that frequent the blogs on this site.

    I never stated that the line item veto had anything to do with congress. Duh!

    Get a life fella, the airport name change is done, the additional f22's are done.

    Here's a quote from Sec. Gates; "Every defense dollar diverted to fund excess or unneeded capacity-whether for more f22s or anything else- is a dollar that will be unavailable to take care of our people, to win the wars we are in, to deter potential adversaries and to improve capabilities in the areas where America is underinvested and potentially vulnerable."

    Of course I am sure you have another oxyrush talking point to counter what the Sec. of Defense has to say about wasting money on additional F22's.

    But I must remember you know all, and see all. So no matter what anyone else has to say about any subject, you are the expert. LOL.

    -- Posted by goarmy67 on Thu, Jul 30, 2009, at 8:29 PM
  • Let me get this straight, I support $1.7 Billion for our national security and therefore I'm somehow not fiscally conservative. It's just funny to me how I'm being lectured about $1.7 Billion dollars for national security and you make a point about how social programs such as the $787 Billion dollar stimulus are not supported by conservatives. First of all, the F22 program is only 2/10 of one percent of the stimulus bill yet I'm not fiscally conservative but Senator Nelson who voted for the $787 billion job killer is? Odd logic.

    "When politicians say they're fiscally conservative, they're often anything but."

    By the same token, that would pretty much describe Senator Nelson.

    I fail to see why you would even mention a line item veto then because the President's line item veto can only eliminate a section of a bill but can't reduce a line item which is what would be needed in a thorough review of a budget for the purpose of making cuts without eliminating entire programs or appropriations. The line item veto is irrelevant anyway since it's unconstitutional but I'm just some know-it-all. Go ahead and keep pushing for unconstitutional laws that erode the separation of powers.

    The 7 F22s, 3 C-17 cargo jets, 9 F-18s and the new Presidential Helicopter Fleet. What do they all have in common? They're all things that Gates said we don't need but only the F22 was cut. Uh oh, that must automatically mean that the troops are being undermined. Whatever shall we do? We're so vulnerable, our troops don't have that money to win the wars we're in, we're underinvested and have decreased capabilities. As long as people like you continue to buy all the talking points from politicians like Nelson and Gates, there's not much hope. I fell for the propaganda from Nelson too, I just finally decided to check his campaign rhetoric versus his record thus far and it's not getting much better.

    "Get a life fella, the airport name change is done, the additional f22's are done."

    I don't necessarily disagree with everything he does but I will speak up when I do. If I stopped dissenting just because something has been passed then I'd be consenting to it. He could have stopped the name change and saved McCook taxpayers' money but he wanted it to be done on the behalf of this group. He knows it's not politically wise to request an airport name change personally so you hide behind a group or foundation. Hence, the McCook Ben Nelson Regional Airport a/k/a payback for earmarks. John Murtha's airport came very close to losing funding because it was such an easy target by putting his name on it. Now McCook's airport will have the same bullseye on it. The difference is, Ben Nelson Airport is the most heavily subsidized airport in the nation and has very few flights when compared to other airports in the program. How's that for political ammo to kill funding for an airport by some crusading Senator trying to eliminate waste in government? Maybe Senator Nelson should have considered this before consenting to having his name glorified on a federally subsidized facility.

    -- Posted by McCook1 on Fri, Jul 31, 2009, at 9:42 AM
  • Mccookie1, you just don't get it and after this post I will not waste anymore time or energy trying to explain an alternate point of view on the hypocrisy of spending millions/billions on a weapons system that is not needed, or wanted by the defense dept, while the money could be used to take care of the troops, their families or as the SEC. OF DEFENSE states can be used on development of new systems etc.

    I was quoting the author of the column,(I thought that is why you use quotation marks) but did I exempt Sen. Nelson? don't think so.

    Line item veto, seems to work in Nebraska, and I am perfectlly aware that is not constitutional for the federal government. If I remember correctly this one is something that the great and almighty Uncle Ronnie Raygun wanted.

    While you are on the subject of talking points, I do listen to someone like the Sec. of Defense when he states that we have enough F22's and the money that you and the other spenders want to throw away,money that can be better spent on other systems, but guess you know better! Perhaps you should send in your resume',(in the greatness of your own mind), you would be a fantastic Sec. of Defense. I sometimes listen to oxyRush for a good laugh, you seem to have his talking points memorized!

    Most heavily subsidized airport? Yes they receive a lot of money for the airport, often requiring local/state matching funds, but I do believe that the airline service coming into McCook is one of the most heavily subsidized in the nation, not the airport itself.On the AP today, (with a quote from Sen. Nelson about essential airline service),

    it was noted that Ely Nevada has a subsidy of $4500 per passenger, or Havre Montana,$2900 per passenger, McCook is only $468.00 per passenger, seems like a bargain when compared to the first two. Your ammo is perhaps a little wet on that one. The airline service is getting the subsidy, not the airport itself. Alaska gets the subsidy for 45 airports. An excessive program, you betca! Needed? Probably (depending on which side of the fence you are sitting on). Excessive yes.

    By the way do a little research on the new presidental helicopter, it has been cancelled by the request of the president to Sec. Gates as being too costly, so a much smaller amount will be used to upgrade the existing fleet.

    When you say you speak out about what you feel is wrong, did you attend any council meetings about the airport issue? Did you voice your concerns at a meeting? Or did you just cry about it after the fact? Just wondering, a lot of people like to complain about something like this after the fact, when they did have a chance to voice their concerns at a council meeting. If you did, good for you.

    I'm sure you again will have some oxyrush talking points that you claim are much more important to the well being of our great country, but as far as Senator Nelson and our nation, state and city, he is doing a commendable job, he's not perfect, (the only perfect person is sitting at the right hand of God)but he is trying to help the citizens of our city, state and nation, but he can not please everyone all of the time!

    -- Posted by goarmy67 on Fri, Jul 31, 2009, at 12:02 PM
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